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Sun Prostrating Under the Throne

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The Final Response to the Doubt About the Hadith of the Sun Prostrating Under the Throne


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The Hadiths in Question

Hadith 1 — Sahih Bukhari Book of the Beginning of Creation

Sahih Bukhari — The Beginning of Creation Muhammad ibn Yusuf told us, Sufyan told us, on the authority of al-A’mash, on the authority of Ibrahim al-Taymi, on the authority of his father, on the authority of Abu Dharr (may Allah be pleased with him), who said:

The Prophet ﷺ said to Abu Dharr when the sun set: “Do you know where it goes?” I said: “Allah and His Messenger know best.” He said: “It goes until it prostrates under the Throne, then asks permission and it is given permission. It is about to prostrate but it is not accepted from it, then it asks permission but it is not given permission. It is told: ‘Go back from where you came,’ then it rises from its place of setting. This is what Allah the Almighty said: ‘And the sun runs to its resting place. That is the determination of the Almighty, the All-Knowing.’ And His Throne is over the water, and He is the Lord of the Mighty Throne.”


Hadith 2 — Sahih Bukhari Book of Tawhid

Sahih Bukhari — Book of Tawhid Yahya ibn Ja’far told us, Abu Muawiyah, on the authority of Al-A’mash, on the authority of Ibrahim al-Taymi, on the authority of his father, on the authority of Abu Dharr, who said:

“I entered the mosque and the Messenger of Allah ﷺ was sitting. When the sun set, he said: ‘O Abu Dharr, do you know where this sun goes?’ I said: ‘Allah and His Messenger know best.’ He said: ‘It goes asking permission to prostrate, and it is given permission, and it is as if it has been told to go back from where you came, and it rises from its place of setting.’”


Note on the Weak Narration via Sufyan ibn Husayn

Weak Narration — Not Used in This Response There is a hadith through the chain of transmission of Sufyan ibn Husayn mentioned in Sunan Abu Dawud, Musnad Ahmad, and Al-Mustadrak Al-Hakim. However, many scholars did not accept it for the following reasons:
  • Its chain is weak by consensus of scholars — the defect being Sufyan himself
  • Yaqub bin Shaibah, Uthman bin Abi Shaibah, and Al-Ajli noted weakness in his hadiths due to confusion and frequent mistakes
  • Abu Dawud and Ibn Ma’in stated he is not a hafiz
  • Its text contradicts the authentic hadiths: it says the Prophet was riding his donkey on the road — while the authentic hadiths say the Prophet was sitting inside the mosque
  • It mentions the sun prostrating in a hot spring — not mentioned in any authentic narration

This narration will therefore not be discussed further. The response focuses on the authentic hadiths.


The Six Apparent Problems — Listed

The Six Problems Raised by Doubters

1. The setting and movement of the sun — it is known that the Earth revolves around the sun, not the other way around.

2. Reaching its resting place under the Throne — the sun does not walk and stand like a human, and it does not leave its solar system to go under the Throne.

3. The apparent meaning suggests the sun does not prostrate except between its setting and rising — but scientifically, when the sun is absent from one place, it rises in another.

4. The connection between the sun’s setting and its going to prostrate — since the sun sets in one place and rises in another at every moment simultaneously.

5. The prostration of the sun under the Throne — the sun does not prostrate like a human, nor do visible changes occur to it.

6. The rising and returning of the sun — since rising and setting are linked to the movement of the Earth, not the sun.


Response to Problem 1 — The Setting and Movement of the Sun

The Sun Does Move — This Is Scientific Fact The setting and moving of the sun is a scientific fact — but we do not mean that the sun revolves around the Earth.

The fact that the sun does not revolve around the Earth does not mean the sun is stationary. Science has confirmed that the sun runs and moves in the Milky Way galaxy, revolving around the center of the galaxy in a circular manner.

Therefore, there is no contradiction between:

  • What came in the hadith and the Qur’anic verse that “the sun runs to its resting place”
  • And what modern science has established — that the sun moves and revolves around the center of the galaxy
Surah Ya-Sin (36:38) “And the sun runs to its resting place. That is the determination of the Almighty, the All-Knowing.”

Response to Problem 2 — Reaching the Resting Place Under the Throne

All Scientists Agree — The Entire Universe is Under the Throne All scholars agreed that the entire universe is under the Throne of the Most Gracious. Therefore, at every moment the sun runs, it is under the Throne and wants to prostrate — but this does not mean it stops.

It is possible that it wants to prostrate, or actually prostrates, while it is moving — because the prostration of creatures differs from one to another:

  • The prostration of a human ≠ the prostration of mountains
  • The prostration of mountains ≠ the prostration of seas
  • The prostration of seas ≠ the prostration of the sun and moon

Everything prostrates to Allah in this universe — by consensus of scholars.

sun prostrating under the throne
sun prostrating under the throne

As for Reaching a Specific Place — Two Groups of Scholars

The First Group of Scholars

First Group Every moment that passes while the sun travels in its galaxy is an arrival at its resting place — and it is under the Throne of its Lord. This does not mean that the sun leaves its galaxy and goes to a distant place.

The sun is always prostrating — and as soon as it finishes one prostration, it enters into another, like the pilgrim who circumambulates the Kaaba: as soon as he finishes one round, he begins the next directly.

The Second Group of Scholars

Second Group Although the sun and all creatures are under the Throne at all times, it is not necessary that all creatures face the center of the inner part of the Throne at all times — because the Throne is like a dome over the heavens and creatures.

The sun has two prostrations:

  • A general, permanent prostration — mentioned in Surah An-Nahl and Al-Hajj with all creatures
  • A special prostration — achieved when it is aligned with the center of the Throne while traveling under it — mentioned in the hadith

Both groups agreed: the sun does not leave its galaxy — it is under the Throne and can be under the center of the inner part of the Throne while in its galaxy.

God, by His power, makes the center of the Throne above the sun every 12 hours — and despite the sun’s immense speed, this tells us that the Throne of God is incomprehensibly vast.


Response to Problem 3 — The Sun Rises Elsewhere While It Sets Here

The Prostration Is Linked to Setting From a Specific Place All the hadiths state that sunset and sunrise are in the same place. Scholars said that the sun’s prostration is a thanking of God for completing its work for the people on whom it set.
  • Its setting is the end of its work and benefit for those people on that day
  • Its prostration after sunset is only its thanking of God for setting from that place and completing its work there

Consequently: its prostration while rising in one place is a prostration for its setting from another place. There is no contradiction.


Response to Problem 4 — The Sun Sets and Rises Simultaneously in Different Places

The Hadiths Speak About One Specific Place Scholars agreed that the apparent meaning of the hadiths does not obligate us to say that when the sun sets from a specific place, it does not rise in another place or set from another place until after it has moved and prostrated.

It is possible that when the sun sets from a specific place — while still setting over another place and rising over another simultaneously — it travels in its galaxy and prostrates under the Throne. All of this happens at the same time.

The hadiths speak about one place where the sun sets and rises — and the meaning is: the sun does not rise on a place except after it travels and wants to prostrate under the Throne of its Lord after setting from that same place.

This does not contradict science, in light of the consensus that the prostration of the sun is not like the prostration of humans, and does not require the sun to leave its galaxy.

The First Group

First Group — Accepts This Meaning Every moment between the sunset of a place and its rising on the same place, the sun travels in its galaxy and prostrates under the Throne. The sun is always prostrating — like the pilgrim who circumambulates: as soon as one round ends, the next begins.

The Second Group

Second Group — Accepts This Meaning The sun faces the inner part of the Throne once every 12 hours — at a specific moment that falls between its setting in a place and its rising in the same place. At that moment, half the Earth is at night while the other half is in daylight, and at a specific moment in this period, the sun is under the center of the Throne and prostrates.

In the other half of the day, when the state of the Earth is reversed, the sun prostrates again. God, by His power, makes the center of the Throne above the sun at each of these moments.


Response to Problem 5 — The Sun Does Not Prostrate Like a Human

Prostration Differs Between Creatures Scholars have agreed that the prostration of creatures differs from one another. It is known by scholarly consensus that everything prostrates to God in this universe — and this does not require stopping.

The hadiths did not say the sun stopped, slowed down, or halted at its resting place. The hadiths said “until it prostrates” or “until it reaches its resting place” — which does not require stopping, as scholars have said. It can prostrate while moving, in a prostration that only God knows.

Proof Within the Hadith Itself The scholars noted the phrase: “Then it rises from its place of rising, then it runs, and people do not find it strange at all.”

The phrase “people do not find it strange at all” is itself an implicit indication that there are people who will hear this hadith and imagine the sun stops or slows down — and find it difficult. The Prophet ﷺ referred in the hadith to the sun’s movement as it usually does, even though it prostrates — but it is a prostration that is not like the prostration of humans.

Who informed the Prophet ﷺ that there are those who will denounce this hadith, except the Lord of Glory, the Knower of the Unseen?


Response to Problem 6 — The Sun Does Not Actually Rise or Return

The Phrase “As If It Were Said to It” — A Simile, Not Literal Scholars said that the phrase “as if it has been said to it, ‘Return from where you came’” — which appears in most of the hadiths — uses the word “as if” (كأنه), which indicates likening and comparison, not literal reality.

The one who sees the sun sees it as if it was ordered to return and rise. No one sees the rotation of the Earth or feels it — and this is the greatest evidence that the hadiths confirm that the rising of the sun is not real but came by way of simile.

What About the Two Hadiths That Don’t Use “As If”? The two hadiths (Hadith 1 of Bukhari and Hadith 1 of Muslim) that do not include the word “as if” are understood by scholars as:
  • A slip of the tongue by the narrators Muhammad bin Yusuf and Yahya bin Ja’far
  • An indication that the sun’s prostration has been completed — which is supported by both groups of scholars
  • The meaning of “return and rise” could refer to God’s command to the Earth to rotate — because the purpose of the command is for people to see the sun rise again, not for the sun itself to physically travel back
The Miracle of Joshua bin Nun When Joshua bin Nun said “O sun, remain on Gibeon” — he directed the command to the sun, not to the Earth. Islamic scholars said it is possible that this miracle occurred in the eyes of those who watched it only, and not on the level of the universe in general — since there is no mention of such supernatural phenomena in the histories or antiquities of neighboring civilizations.
The Christian Bible Website — Anba Takla When a questioner asked: “How does the Holy Bible say that God orders the sun not to rise, when scientifically the Earth is the one that rotates — shouldn’t the book say God orders the Earth not to rotate?”

The website responded: “God tells us the words that we can comprehend, but He does not tell us what we cannot comprehend. The fact that the book says that God orders the sun not to rise does not negate the Earth’s rotation around the sun — rather God addresses us according to our minds.”

This is the same principle that applies to the prophetic hadiths. If the rotation of the Earth had been mentioned, the contemporaries of the Prophet ﷺ would not have understood it — nor would the generations that followed them. Many people, when the heliocentric theory first appeared, said: “If we spent the evening in Mecca and the Earth rotated, we would have woken up in Taif or Najd.”


The Internal Evidence Within the Hadiths Themselves

Three Proofs From Within the Hadiths
Internal Proof 1 The hadith says “it goes until it prostrates under the Throne” — it does not say “it sets under the Throne” or “until it sets under the Throne.” The word “goes” indicates flow and movement, not the place of sunset. The sun does not set in a specific physical location — it sets in a specific direction.
Internal Proof 2 The phrase “Then it rises from its place of rising, then it runs, and people do not find it strange at all” — the words “people do not find it strange” implicitly acknowledge that someone will find this difficult and imagine the sun stops. The Prophet ﷺ reassured us: it runs as it always does, even while prostrating — in a prostration unlike human prostration.
Internal Proof 3 The phrase “and it is as if it has been said to it, ‘Return from where you came’” — the word “as if” in most hadiths is the greatest evidence that the rising of the sun is not real but came by way of comparison. The eye sees the sun as if it is returning and rising.

The Purpose and Benefit of These Hadiths — Summary

What the Hadiths Want to Tell Us The hadiths want to tell us that everything prostrates to God — including the sun. The sun prostrates to God:
  • After it sets in every place — during its movement
  • Therefore the sun is always prostrating to God, because at every moment the sun sets in a place on the Earth (as the first group of scholars said)

Or:

  • The sun prostrates to God at a specific moment in time when the sun has set from half the Earth — because the sun does not set from the entire Earth at one time — and God by His power makes the sun under the center of the Throne at that moment (as the second group said)

Prostration — as scholars agreed — we cannot see or notice it with our eyes. And when it is said to it “rise and return” — this is a simile for the occurrence of the word “as if” in most hadiths, indicating the end of one prostration while merging directly into the next — like the merging of rounds during circumambulation.


Scientific Supplement — The Sun’s Movement in the Milky Way

sun prostrating under the throne 1
sun prostrating under the throne 1

NASA and Space Science on the Sun’s Movement Space scientists say that the sun moves around the center of the Milky Way galaxy in a circular spiral, as do the planets.

The sun’s speed in its rotation around the center of the galaxy ranges from 200–250 kilometers per second. Scientists also found:

  • The sun has an up and down movement
  • The sun rotates around itself as a result of its movement around the center of the galaxy

Therefore, its movement around the center of the galaxy in a circular spiral is itself a return from where it came — in a more precise sense: as if it is returning from where it came. This is precisely the prophetic expression used in all hadiths except two.

The Christian Bible Website — On Solar Vibrations and Earth’s Rotation “The sun is a burning mass of flaming gases, so it rotates around its axis in a different way from solid planets — called differential rotation. The equator of the sun completes one revolution in 25 days, while this extends to about 37 days at the poles. As a result of the sun’s rotation and its huge size, a magnetic field and waves are produced that cause enormous vibrations, making the smaller planets rotate around it in orbits. These waves also produce the movement of planets around themselves, producing night and day. As a result of enormous solar vibrations (400 billion vibrations/second) which occur on the surface of the Earth, the Earth rotates around its axis. That is, the Earth’s rotation around the sun is due to the sun — and the Earth’s rotation around its own axis is also due to the sun’s vibrations.”

Turning the Tables — The Bible on the Sun

Christians and Atheists Who Raise This Doubt Must Reckon with Their Own Texts
Joshua 10:13 “So the sun stood still, and the moon stood still, until the people had taken revenge on their enemies… And the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and did not hasten to go down, about a whole day.”
Judges 5:31 “So shall all your enemies perish, O Lord. And his beloved are as the sun rising in his might.”
Job 9:7 “He commands the sun, and it does not rise.”
Ecclesiastes 1:5 “And the sun rises, and the sun sets, and hastens to its place where it rises.”
Ben Sirach 43:2 “The sun, when it proclaims its vision.”
Ben Sirach 46:4–5 “Has not the sun gone backward? In his days the sun went backward.”
Isaiah 13:10 “For the stars of heaven and their constellations shall not give their light; the sun shall be darkened when it rises.”
Isaiah 38:8 “Behold, I will bring back the shadow of the degrees, which went down in the degrees of Ahaz by the sun, ten degrees backward. The sun went back ten degrees.”
Conclusion Every objection raised against the prophetic hadiths regarding the sun applies with equal or greater force to the texts of the Bible. Christians and atheists who raise these doubts against Islam must first reconcile their own scripture — which speaks of the sun standing still, going backward, being commanded not to rise, and hastening to its place — before pointing fingers at the hadith of Abu Dharr.

This article is part of the OpenIslam Wiki — Responses to Hadith Doubts and Orientalist Critiques series.